I believe the best answer to both of these questions is “ten years.” If this doesn’t really sound like a valid answer for the above questions, please bear with me for a minute and I’ll explain what I mean.
For my answer to make any sense I must explain the context in which I view the questions. I am a believer in owning real estate. I have been buying property since 1978, and my wife and I have owned over 22 homes since then. I have been taking loan applications and analyzing people’s financial strength for over 22 years. It has proven to be true over and over again, with very few exceptions that the only significant wealth that most of us Southern Californians have is the equity in our real estate. Beyond the equity in our homes most of us seem to have about the same amount in our bank accounts as we owe to our creditors.
If you are mentally adding up the balances in your IRAs and 401ks and you are coming up with ten grand more than you owe on the wave runners in the garage then congratulations, but what I am referring to is significant wealth. In my experiance significant wealth just about always seems to require owning at least one piece of real estate.
Here in Southern California many of us have become self employed in some sort of entrepreneurial career in order to manage to keep up with the cost of living. As such we have no pension to look forward too. If you are in that boat with me, accumulating a little wealth is not just about affording the finer things in life, it is more about being able to retire someday.
When I came to this realization a few years ago, I did a little research about ways to retire. I have a file cabinet full of loan applications that I had taken over my career so I pulled out the applications for all borrowers who had managed to put themselves into a position to be able to retire. I separated the files into stacks based on how they had achieved this feat. I ended up with four piles.
One pile was full of doctors and lawyers who had earned so much over their careers that as long as they had invested in something, they did pretty well. The next stack was made up of borrowers who had built up businesses, usually large ones with lots of employees. When the time comes, they sell the business and sail off into the sunset. The third stack was made up of folks who had gotten lucky. They had been in the right place at the right time. One couple hit the lottery. Another man swept the floors at Apple Computer back when they had to pay people in Apple stock. A few folks had done well investing in other things. By far the tallest stack though belonged to those who had simply owned their home and then acquired another property or two along the way.
By the time I did this analysis it was far too late for me to become a Doctor or a Lawyer. I really did not have it in me to try to grow a large company with lots of employees either. I could not see leaving it up to the fate to put me in the right place at the right time. Owning a few properties seemed like the most reliable and do-able of the options.
So again, I firmly believe owning real estate is the very best way for us here in Southern California to reliably build a little wealth and to be able to retire someday. OK! I told you that story so I could tell you this story.
Here is where I tie the questions to my answer.
Buying real estate now is the most reliable way I know to build wealth, and be able to retire, but you must give it ten years!
Real estate investing was never meant to be a get rich quick scheme even though it can be at times. You would be very hard pressed to find a ten year time span where California real estate was worth more at the beginning than at the end.
“Ok Bill I see your point and I am ready to buy but what if real estate values drop even more?” “Won’t I do even better if I wait for the bottom?” Maybe, but…. how accurate is your crystal ball. I can assure you of one thing. There are a ton of people waiting to buy “just as soon as the market hits bottom.” The challenge is that none of them will know when we have hit bottom until we are at least 3 months beyond it. I predict that the vast majority of market timers will miss the bottom by 3-5% in terms of home values. I predict that those buyers who do nail the bottom will be the ones who are not even trying to time the bottom.
If most buyers are actually going to miss the bottom by 3-5% anyway, I contend that the buyers who buy 3% before the bottom will end up with the better homes. Buyers today have more choices than I can remember in the last 10 years. Once we recognize the bottom it becomes a bit like the game “musical chairs.” Once the music stops it may be all you can do to grab the nearest chair. Worse yet is some folks will wait for the market to bottom only to find the loan program they needed to qualify has just been discontinued. I’ll write more about that in my next article.
I had to learn all of this the hard way at the end of the last market correction in 1996. I missed the bottom by about 3% and I kicked myself for a long time. Then I learned that it is all relative. Ten years later when my home had more than doubled in value what started as 3% of the initial home value was now more like 1% of my current home value and I rarely ever fretted about it anymore.
So back to our original question, has the Southern California real estate market bottomed out? Is now the time to buy a home? My answer is as long as you plan to keep the home for “ten years,” the sooner your ten years begins, the sooner your ten years will be up, and the sooner you will be on the road to significant wealth!
Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road.
Allen Taylor
By: Allen Taylor on May 16, 2008
at 10:34 pm
This is excellent. I read many blogs, almost all real estate or mortgage related. This article, as well as the others here, are among the best I have seen. Keep up the good work. You are not blogging in the dark!
PS – Your suggestions are right on the money. Americans tend to want what they want, when they want it, though. 10 years? I can see the heads wagging already
By: Kitsap County Real Estate on May 16, 2008
at 11:53 pm
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By: loan » Blog Archive » Has the Southern California Real Estate Market Bottomed Out? Is … on May 17, 2008
at 12:17 am
It’s refreshing to hear someone say something other than “NOW” is a great time to buy. Please, give today’s educated consumer some credit! It seems as though the current cycle is significantly different than past cycles. Wouldn’t you agree? Good advice, nonetheless. You should check out http://www.ActiveRain.com, they need a few more sound mortgage voices over there…
By: Sparky on May 17, 2008
at 6:48 am
Hey, thank you so much for your kind words. I realize the idea of a ten year plan will strike many as just too radical. Those folks probably won’t like my plan to eliminate our dependance on foreign oil either.
Sparky, I do agree that this correction is significantly different than past corrections. I think it may be even harder to try to accurately time the bottom of this one, don’t you?
I also recognize that today’s educated consumers have become quite adept and quite focused on scoring the best price on whatever we want. There is nothing wrong with that. I just want to plant the seed though that in ten years it may turn out to be even more important that we were in the game, than that we paid the absolute lowest possible price of admission.
Thanks for the tip about ActiveRain. I will check it out.
By: bfletcher on May 17, 2008
at 9:41 pm
If someone wanted to buy now versus a year from now, what does buying now offer them, versus waiting. Well, one thing is the conforming Fannie Mae jumbo, that loan is going away in December. No big deal, you say,,, au contraire, I say. The regular jumbo loans are at almost 8%. The Fannie Mae jumbos are at around 6%. Big difference in the monthly payment.
Also, FHA loan limits are up to the same level as the Fannie Mae limit, and VA’s are usable for the first time in 20 years…
It is a good time to buy. Will it hurt to wait? Who knows. All I know is what is happening NOW. and here is what is happening now:
1. Interest rates are good
2. Loan limits are up higher for those special products
3. Rents are good
4. Inflation is becoming a big concern and that means at some point very soon interest rates are GOING TO GO UP… they will have to.
So, I do agree that a 10 year cycle is the best way to think of investing in real estate. But I also think the time to buy is not necessarily just based upon the price of real estate, but on the whole picture. That is something that most people do not take into account.
Yes, real estate can go lower, but if interest rates go up 2%, is it a better deal. I am not thinking so….
Anyway, give me your thoughts on that one!!!
By: workingwmn on May 25, 2008
at 1:13 am
Dear WorkingWoman I think we may be saying the same thing. My main contention is that owning a bit of real estate is the safest and most reliable path to our eventual financial security. I believe that making sure we own property for at least ten years will prove in the end to be much more important to our financial outcome than making sure we got the very best price.
Within the ten year span there will likely be times when values goes up and times when values will go down. It probably will not make much difference in the end which way it moves first as long as it nets out to be a gain at the end. I think it will.
So I believe I agree with you. The biggest risk is in waiting. If one can buy something today, that one can afford to hold for ten years, one probably should.
By: bfletcher on May 29, 2008
at 9:10 pm
Hi Folks, For a quick update on the question of whether it is time to buy real estate in southern California, please check out my latest article!
Thanks.
Bill
By: bfletcher on September 4, 2008
at 6:25 pm